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Post by helm024j on Jul 19, 2010 19:03:02 GMT -5
i picked up an 89 lincoln town car and an 88 chevy wagon and im not sure which to build for the state fair.would love some in put and tips to get me motivated.thanks for everything,kyle
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Post by etownrdnck on Jul 19, 2010 19:37:23 GMT -5
I would build the wagon but i love wagons their my personal favorite i would def build it if you have a good 350 for it. crease the roof so it will bend up and notch the frame
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Post by 307ci on Jul 19, 2010 19:56:53 GMT -5
id run the linc, them boxes are winning them all around here against old iron
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Post by scooter24d on Jul 19, 2010 20:29:47 GMT -5
I would go with the linc. also the chevy wagons need's some help to get them to go the right way in the rear but our state fair it has to be stock and leave the dash in and gas tank in the trunk
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Post by helm024j on Jul 19, 2010 21:49:37 GMT -5
thanks everyone we have a stock and modified.a few buddies want me to put the wagon in stock and build the lincoln for the mod round.600 to win stock,1500 to win mod. all advice and comments are wanted and appreciated thanks all keep it coming
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Post by 82 on Jul 20, 2010 7:21:31 GMT -5
Wagon woul be better for stock, lincoln would be better for mod show,,,if you can tilt and leaf.
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Post by helm024j on Jul 20, 2010 8:17:34 GMT -5
its GSA rules,LEAF SPRING SPECIFICATIONS
Converting coil springs to leafs is allowed but you must follow these rules. Cars that can be converted must be 80 or newer body styles no exceptions. Springs must have at least a 2 inch stager, no more then 4 clamps per side, no more than 6 springs per side( car springs only). Springs must be no more than 2 1/2 inches wide, longest spring must be no longer than 5 foot. Thickness no more then 5/16 #This will be checked with a 5/16 inch wrench.
LEAF SPRING MOUNTING
Front spring must use factory suspension hole( trailer arm hole). Reinforcement of this hole must not exceed 3 inches of center of this hole and must be done on out side of frame only and using metal no thicker than the frame. Any reinforcement found on inside of frame will be cause for immediate disqualification. No reinforcement for leaf spring hanging. Washers no bigger than 4 inches, outside bracket no longer than 8 inches total. No welding except what it takes to mount the brackets. This conversion must be as close as possible to OEM style mounting. Examples: mid 70 style GM wagons and Chryslers. If officials find you went beyond how factory leaf springs are mounted on factory leaf cars you will not be allowed to participate and no refund of entry fee . No flat sprung cars
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Post by bh77 on Jul 20, 2010 19:03:49 GMT -5
I think the lincoln would be a better car for the mod. with a spring conversion
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Post by helm024j on Jul 20, 2010 22:13:08 GMT -5
thanks, keep it coming,all opinions wanted
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Post by redneckron on Jul 26, 2010 22:48:16 GMT -5
build the wagon but do a frame off get it pre bent and dish the out side frame rails clean up to the middle of the humps pull dowm the body mounts tight and some steel backed bumpers drill out bumper shocks dont hit any thing untill the derby pow instant hard noser good luck ps dont forget to cut rear seat pan out and re weld in upside down
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Post by helm024j on Jul 27, 2010 10:29:52 GMT -5
thanks didnt know how to do this one thank you
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Post by redneckron on Jul 29, 2010 13:41:45 GMT -5
some work involved pull allbody bolts roll off shell fix all holes in frame an body roll back on bolt down w 3x3 plates use map gas and ball peen hamer to dish frame gets hot but not to hot good luck
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Post by helm024j on Jul 29, 2010 14:25:40 GMT -5
hell yeah thanks for great tips. ive never ran a wagon so thanks for your advice i prolly would have this thing built for failure if it wasnt for everyones input,thank you all
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Post by helm024j on Aug 2, 2010 9:30:50 GMT -5
thanks everyone for your tips and input.i picked up an 85 buick rivera,its fwd with a 307..lol i ran it 2 weeks ago in a stock show and broke a cv.ive got a new one in and welded the gears.gsa allowes unlimited 9 wire so i think with enough i can make it decent. and save the wagon and lincoln for a weld show so i can get the best out of them. thanks
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Post by hardhitinu on Aug 4, 2010 12:15:15 GMT -5
I'd run the lincoln if it was me and if anything was left take it to a weld show the rivera I don't know anything really about just if one is in my heat and its front wheel drive take the front tires out the linc. I think would give ya a better shot at winning your state fair
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